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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:23:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:See, in EVE, flying ships is what you do. On the ground, in Dust, you could use vehicles or be infantry. We have the choice between the two. In EVE, you do one thing.
There's going to be people that want to completely skill out of vehicles for whatever reason. Their capabilities are being nerfed pretty hard, and AV is being nerfed only commensurate with how much vehicles are being nerfed. So I feel rightly that they should be able to reclaim the SP they put into vehicles. I know I'm going to need all my SP back to skill up all the turrets, and both hulls. I'll have some left over for whenever they announce the pilot suits.
People that want and I feel are the problems. We aren't looking at is best for the game we are trying for things that make us feel better.
In EVE like in DUST we are a person and much like in DUST the job we do defines what ship we are flying. In DUST you start in a merc quarters and EVE you are in the captain"s quarters or hanger. Those are very similar. In DUST you put on your suit or sit in vehicle to do your job. Similar. Your job is fighting and you do that wearing a suit or in a vehicle. Hits both. In EVE you train a skill to fly a ship and in DUST you train a skill to wear a suit or be a pilot for a ship. Pretty much the same. In EVE pilots move from frigate to destroyer to cruiser to battlecruiser to battleship and to Capitals, while in DUST we move from light to medium to heavy to LAV to HAV and then on to Dropships. That was a very similar progression. I can do more if you like.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:05:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote: The gameplay between the two is VASTLY different and trying to say otherwise is just....what are you even trying to do?
Wait
Did you seriously just compare going from frigate to capitals as going from light to dropships.....
What...the ****...are you smoking?
Spkr4theDead wrote:See, in EVE, flying ships is what you do. On the ground, in Dust, you could use vehicles or be infantry. We have the choice between the two. In EVE, you do one thing.
I am comparing the differences between the classes of hulls on DUST and EVE not comparing their way of being played. Saying you do one thing is like saying DUST is just shooting a gun. I am not making any other comparisons and any other aspect. The games have a similar progressions system - in size - that is skill based.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:13:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:See, in EVE, flying ships is what you do. On the ground, in Dust, you could use vehicles or be infantry. We have the choice between the two. In EVE, you do one thing.
There's going to be people that want to completely skill out of vehicles for whatever reason. Their capabilities are being nerfed pretty hard, and AV is being nerfed only commensurate with how much vehicles are being nerfed. So I feel rightly that they should be able to reclaim the SP they put into vehicles. I know I'm going to need all my SP back to skill up all the turrets, and both hulls. I'll have some left over for whenever they announce the pilot suits. People that want and I feel are the problems. We aren't looking at is best for the game we are trying for things that make us feel better. In EVE like in DUST we are a person and much like in DUST the job we do defines what ship we are flying. In DUST you start in a merc quarters and EVE you are in the captain"s quarters or hanger. Those are very similar. In DUST you put on your suit or sit in vehicle to do your job. Similar. Your job is fighting and you do that wearing a suit or in a vehicle. Hits both. In EVE you train a skill to fly a ship and in DUST you train a skill to wear a suit or be a pilot for a ship. Pretty much the same. In EVE pilots move from frigate to destroyer to cruiser to battlecruiser to battleship and to Capitals, while in DUST we move from light to medium to heavy to LAV to HAV and then on to Dropships. That was a very similar progression. I can do more if you like. As has been mentioned many times before, they're rebuilding vehicles from the ground up. Some just don't want a vehicle with only 3 HP tank slots, and prefer 5, so maybe they'd want to get out of tanking. Like I said, in EVE, you're in a ship. That cannot be changed. In Dust, you can be infantry or a vehicle pilot. You could skill into both and use both. Some want to use only one. I see no reason we shouldn't get a respec so those that want to get out of vehicles can do so.
It is no different than skilling into a frigate or a destroyer, the concept is the same. I fly Gal ships and have good drone skills but the destroyers didn't have Gal drone boat. I skipped it and went to cruisers. They released the Gal drone destroyer after I had trained my cruiser to 5. I spent all that time passively skilling into a ship I didn't want only to have, the one I wanted was released afterward. You can say they aren't the same game but they are and they do different things differently. CCP changes things and sometimes you have to stick with choices made.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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